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William Schlafer  
#11 Posted : Sunday, November 19, 2017 12:29:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: weiliwen Go to Quoted Post
It makes one wonder if they would put this to a vote of the residents of Vernon County. It's their county, they should have the primary say in what happens. Foolish me, I know.


If the proposed farm gets the proper permits there may be little anyone can do to stop them. A nuisance lawsuit might be possible, but only after they're up and running, and only if it can be proved the farm has caused measurable damage. Considering the lax attitude the state has taken towards the threats to the health of residents and the environment posed by expansion of concentrated animal feeding operations, I wouldn't expect much help there. Legislators pockets are well lined by organizations pushing hard for the expansion of such farms.


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William Schlafer  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:30:08 PM(UTC)
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Here's an article from the Crawford County Independent regarding a recent public hearing in Westby of the Concerned Citizens for Smart Growth regarding the proposed hog farm. Mat Wagner (of the Driftless Angler Fly Shop) is quoted.


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#13 Posted : Monday, December 4, 2017 9:56:56 PM(UTC)
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Got this email update today:

Community Meeting Notes
from 11/29/17 and Upcoming Conference

The meeting was all about our call to action. Gayle Nielsen started the meeting off by presenting a summary of what we know now about PIP and the Pork slaughtering industry.

Next was a personal story from Susan Tully. Before moving to Wisconsin she had lived in California downstream from large farming operations. The polluted water system caused numerous illnesses to Tully and her neighbors. She warned of what we can look forward to if PIP and the necessary CAFOS invade our county.

We next heard from a local farmer who has an idea for the use of the property as a local, small scale animal slaughterhouse. There are other options that could be considered too.... a specialty milk production plant is one other example. Our hope is that if all else fails financing could be generated, by a small group or even a large cooperative, so that PIP could be bought out.

The rest of the meeting was spent discussing our next steps and what we can do to put the pressure on PIP.....

First call to action: there will be a petition signing campaign in Viroqua next Saturday morning 12/9 from 9:00 a.m. to noon. We have about 1400 signatures but would like to have at least 2000 to present to the Viroqua City Council, the other local government boards and PIP to let them all know we don’t want them here. There will be petitions available at Ward Law Office (210 N Main St #2, Viroqua) that morning or you can download and print the petition from our website.

We had a great group of people there who really stepped up and volunteered to work on some of the various committees we have developed to get the word out including letter writing campaign (letters to editor and to various government officials); yard sign development and distribution, petition organization, permit monitoring and local government meeting and attendance. If you are interested in helping with one of these committees please let us know!

And finally, one of the most important components - we need financial support as well. If you aren’t able to provide your time to help out please consider making a monetary donation. A Go Fund Me page has been set up to help collect funds - it’s an easy couple of clicks to really make a difference. Here is the link:

https://www.gofundme.com...citizens-operations-fund

Thanks everyone!!! Together we can make a difference!!

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weiliwen  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:40:30 AM(UTC)
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I donated to the GFM program today!
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HookJaw  
#15 Posted : Sunday, December 24, 2017 12:10:00 PM(UTC)
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Some new info added to website:

http://www.citizensforsmartgrowth.com/



Also new: Yard signs are available @ 729 N. Main St. (Ethos Green Energy) in Viroqua. They are suggesting a $10 donation.

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Next Event: Jan. 20 @ AmericInn in Boscobel - talk entitled, "Industrial Ag in the Driftless: How do we protect our communities?"


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#16 Posted : Sunday, December 24, 2017 3:30:54 PM(UTC)
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I'd like to ask those who are closer to what's going on - and I mean, literally, closer in distance: Is there any chance that public pressure can stop this from happening? does the county have any say? You might have a chance at stopping it at the county level, but definitely not at the state or national level, given the balance of power in both. Below the county level I am pretty sure that you can talk or picket all you want, but the municipalities will not have the power to stop if even if they wanted to.

Next step is to deny housing to employees of the CAFO once it starts up, make them drive from LaCrosse every day. How many would-be landlords will turn down a tenant because he or she works at the CAFO? It would be effective if you could do that.

What about other services? Would store owners put a sign out front of each store that says 1) "We reserve the right to deny service to anybody," and 2) "We will not willingly service employees of the CAFO?"

I realize that all these actions will be difficult or impossible, but if you have the townspeople of Viroqua and Westby active and unified, you could make it not worth the money for folks to work at the CAFO. You know 99% of them will be from out of town anyway.

No matter what you do, petitions and meetings won't budge the owners of the CAFO. They understand only one thing: Money. Stick it to them in the pocketbook and they'll find another place to put their cesspool.
Bob Williams, "Weiliwen"
William Schlafer  
#17 Posted : Sunday, December 24, 2017 6:13:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: weiliwen Go to Quoted Post
Is there any chance that public pressure can stop this from happening? does the county have any say? You might have a chance at stopping it at the county level, but definitely not at the state or national level, given the balance of power in both. Below the county level I am pretty sure that you can talk or picket all you want, but the municipalities will not have the power to stop if even if they wanted to.


I asked a friend of mine, a lawyer who works for a legislative lobbying firm about this (I know, I know... evil empire and stuff). She says that with changes at the state level, there's little communities and local organizations can do to stop CAFOs, big box retailers and other businesses they may find undesirable from coming to their town.

In fact, the state has moved to block local communities and agencies from prohibiting such operations.

Once operational and environmental permitting is received from the DNR there's not much that can be done to prevent them from building.

Once these businesses begin operation, if individuals or groups can prove (in court) that they are harmful, are operating illegally, or are an excessive nuisance in some way, legal action can be taken against them to resolve the problems, or shut them down. But only after the damage is obvious. The DNR's ability to restrict and regulate CAFOs based upon the potential for pollution or environmental concerns has been mostly removed. They're obligated by law to provide permits if the paper work is in order.

Small local governments often do not have the legal or financial capabilities to fight against large corporations like PIP. Which is why such companies often target small towns for their expansion plans.


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weiliwen on 12/24/2017(UTC)
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#18 Posted : Sunday, December 24, 2017 11:10:02 PM(UTC)
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I am sure you're right. That's why non-governmental means need to be taken, as I outlined above. Nobody in Vernon county should extend any credit to the CAFO for any local purchases - make them buy from farther away. Make CAFO employees pay more for everything they buy, by making them buy it out of county - housing, primarily.

Municipalities and the county CAN make local traffic regulations which would impede their business, too - slow down traffic, aggressively police commercial traffic, jack up commercial water, sewer rates, etc. I believe that these are all within their purview.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, December 30, 2017 2:34:56 PM(UTC)
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I assume this action was taken in response to the Hog Facility proposal in the Town of Viroqua:

http://lacrossetribune.c...8-ac1c-8e8cffb75452.html

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#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 11, 2018 2:13:23 PM(UTC)
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