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Originally Posted by: Guillermo  So sick of this horseshit. Time for an overhaul. Indeed. This map illustrates the depth of the problem in Wisconsin:  In Kewaunee County alone, 2/3 of all private wells are said to be contaminated. Bacteria can come from any number of sources, but I'll bet you'll find a CAFO under every one of those dark red pixels. Loosening the rules to allow those operations to pollute even more, and remove any power the DNR or local governments have to mitigate the risks, is insane. For Trout streams this time of year poses a big danger from manure runoff. Waste is spread or sprayed on frozen fields and is locked onto the surface temporarily by the cold. Should a rapid thaw, or a heavy rain event occur, it can easily run off and into streams instead of dissolving into the soil. We've witnessed this recently in the Driftless Area on the West Fork, Black Earth Creek, Hickory Creek (IA) Willow Creek, Otter Creek, Gorman Creek (MN) and Castle Rock Creek, just to name a few. As the old saying goes: "Whiskey is for drinking, water is for fighting over." Time to pick a fight with the bullies. -Bill |
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was thinking of moving to Vernon Co. on a trout stream but I see this happening way to often, and I would have no recourse if it happen on my part of the river so really thinking about relocating somewhere else.
just happened in Crawford on one of my fav creek last year and many more before that......COME ON GUYS GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER.
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I fished from jersey valley up to the bridge yesterday and SAW 2 fish.
it's small enough water where you should be able to see any fish in the stream, whether while approaching a section or just walking by and spooking it
I don't know if fish move upstream from that area this time of year or if they're able to survive at all in the lake
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Originally Posted by: big_river_bum I fished from jersey valley up to the bridge yesterday and SAW 2 fish.
it's small enough water where you should be able to see any fish in the stream, whether while approaching a section or just walking by and spooking it
I don't know if fish move upstream from that area this time of year or if they're able to survive at all in the lake You're talking about the creek above the lake right? Up to the bridge by the County Park? I fished that last March and caught probably 20 brookies in a couple hours. Your experience makes it sound like the worst-case scenario may have happened.
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Originally Posted by: Guillermo Originally Posted by: big_river_bum I fished from jersey valley up to the bridge yesterday and SAW 2 fish.
it's small enough water where you should be able to see any fish in the stream, whether while approaching a section or just walking by and spooking it
I don't know if fish move upstream from that area this time of year or if they're able to survive at all in the lake You're talking about the creek above the lake right? Up to the bridge by the County Park? I fished that last March and caught probably 20 brookies in a couple hours. Your experience makes it sound like the worst-case scenario may have happened. yes I fished it last September and caught some nice brookies out of that little cliff pool.
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It's entirely possible that the worst case has happened.
What I will say though is that I fished a lot of places this season - places where I've had 20+ fish days - and didn't see a single fish. Not even in the pools. Nothing.
As was stated, you'd at least expect to be spooking them.
I have no idea where they went.
I've experienced a dramatically different winter of fishing this year as compared to last.
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Originally Posted by: big_river_bum Originally Posted by: Guillermo Originally Posted by: big_river_bum I fished from jersey valley up to the bridge yesterday and SAW 2 fish.
it's small enough water where you should be able to see any fish in the stream, whether while approaching a section or just walking by and spooking it
I don't know if fish move upstream from that area this time of year or if they're able to survive at all in the lake You're talking about the creek above the lake right? Up to the bridge by the County Park? I fished that last March and caught probably 20 brookies in a couple hours. Your experience makes it sound like the worst-case scenario may have happened. yes I fished it last September and caught some nice brookies out of that little cliff pool. I caught a few “tanks” as far as Driftless Brookies are concerned in the deep pool immediately upstream of the lake. As Gurth said, it’s possible it was only by chance that you didn’t see hardly any fish. But I have a feeling we know the reason...as sad as it may be.
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Originally Posted by: Guillermo Originally Posted by: big_river_bum Originally Posted by: Guillermo Originally Posted by: big_river_bum I fished from jersey valley up to the bridge yesterday and SAW 2 fish.
it's small enough water where you should be able to see any fish in the stream, whether while approaching a section or just walking by and spooking it
I don't know if fish move upstream from that area this time of year or if they're able to survive at all in the lake You're talking about the creek above the lake right? Up to the bridge by the County Park? I fished that last March and caught probably 20 brookies in a couple hours. Your experience makes it sound like the worst-case scenario may have happened. yes I fished it last September and caught some nice brookies out of that little cliff pool. I caught a few “tanks” as far as Driftless Brookies are concerned in the deep pool immediately upstream of the lake. As Gurth said, it’s possible it was only by chance that you didn’t see hardly any fish. But I have a feeling we know the reason...as sad as it may be. the bottom half of that pool had ice on it. the top half didn't and I was trying to keep an eye out for fish, but didn't see any. although the 6 geese honking at my 8 month old pup and him freaking out did kind of distract me  I don't remember seeing any mud plumes or anything indicating bottom holding fish being spooked
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