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Dullyouth  
#11 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:39:05 AM(UTC)
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Yuo guys usually wax your ferrules?
Cmac  
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:51:00 AM(UTC)
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Interesting question Dully....my St. Croix rod came with a plastic container of wax that fit right into the top of the rod tube, my Sage did not, nor my Echo......have never used the wax....look at it occasionally, think about it, but never pull the trigger....so far rod sections are behaving themselves.
MikeJuran  
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:25:40 AM(UTC)
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Dullyouth wrote:
Yuo guys usually wax your ferrules?

i didn't previously but I do now ...not wax, just human oil on my fingers from behind my ear .... I did this with 3 other fly rods I own after the Hardy incident and haven't had a stuck ferrule issue ..... but then again, this summer with the Hardy was the first time it ever got stuck ....

mj
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caster  
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:19:10 PM(UTC)
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yep!
kschaefer3  
#15 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:25:25 PM(UTC)
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MikeJuran wrote:
Dullyouth wrote:
Yuo guys usually wax your ferrules?

i didn't previously but I do now ...not wax, just human oil on my fingers from behind my ear .... I did this with 3 other fly rods I own after the Hardy incident and haven't had a stuck ferrule issue ..... but then again, this summer with the Hardy was the first time it ever got stuck ....

mj

Is human oil supposed to work as well as wax?
Kev  
#16 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:28:02 PM(UTC)
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Dullyouth wrote:
Yuo guys usually wax your ferrules?




If I am not wrong the main reason to "wax" is to allow sections to seat together deeper and prevent sections coming apart when casting. (according to instructions in my new H2)

Makes sense that it would also help sections come apart I suppose

Kev
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MikeJuran  
#17 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:21:49 PM(UTC)
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kschaefer3 wrote:
MikeJuran wrote:
Dullyouth wrote:
Yuo guys usually wax your ferrules?

i didn't previously but I do now ...not wax, just human oil on my fingers from behind my ear .... I did this with 3 other fly rods I own after the Hardy incident and haven't had a stuck ferrule issue ..... but then again, this summer with the Hardy was the first time it ever got stuck ....

mj

Is human oil supposed to work as well as wax?


when I was researching how to get stuck ferrules apart, there were several postings from guys saying to simply used human oils ... so I tried it and so far so good ... when I am assembling the rod, i simply do the back of ear oil on my fingers with each ferrule .... so far it works .... but one season is not a valid scientific test ....
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redneckdan  
#18 Posted : Monday, February 9, 2015 11:32:53 AM(UTC)
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Cool it down and then wrap your hand around the female portion of the ferrule. Hold it for a minute or so and then try putting apart. Just cooling the joint will not usually do it. You need to create a temperature delta between the mating pieces.

Just like pressing bearings, cool the bearing and heat the housing.
mjager0  
#19 Posted : Monday, February 9, 2015 1:55:53 PM(UTC)
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redneckdan wrote:
Cool it down and then wrap your hand around the female portion of the ferrule. Hold it for a minute or so and then try putting apart. Just cooling the joint will not usually do it. You need to create a temperature delta between the mating pieces.

Just like pressing bearings, cool the bearing and heat the housing.


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You want the female end hotter than the male end. I usually wrap my fingers tightly around the female end right at the joint and poor cold water on the male end close to the joint, than grab and pull immediately.
I wax my rods every once and a while when I'm at home and think of it, it seems to help a little.
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MikeJuran  
#20 Posted : Monday, February 9, 2015 2:06:05 PM(UTC)
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redneckdan wrote:
Cool it down and then wrap your hand around the female portion of the ferrule. Hold it for a minute or so and then try putting apart. Just cooling the joint will not usually do it. You need to create a temperature delta between the mating pieces.

Just like pressing bearings, cool the bearing and heat the housing.


thanks .... tried that as well ..... this was the last tip i found on the internet and initially I did it wrong (heated and cooled wrong ends)..... but I had it outside (-4) and heated female end with my hand and still stuck .... didn't want to break it (bad enough I dinged/loosened an eyelet).....hardy offered free repair or replacement, so I will let them break it and send new one!

mj
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