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Guillermo
#1 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 2:16:58 AM
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Don't know why I'm surprised by anything from some of these greedy sons o' bitches.

The Little Plover River in Portage County dried up a few years ago (literally dried up as in on water at all) and it was proven to be the result of increasing pumping of groundwater from nearby wells. A quality brookie stream literally ran dry. That just makes my blood boil.

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wibirdhunter
#2 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 3:31:49 AM
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F**k allowing farmers to pump that much water out of the ground.
s.t.fanatic
#3 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 12:48:15 PM
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Maybe if these assholes wanted to farm they shouldnt have bought land in the fricking desert.
William Schlafer
#4 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 1:23:20 PM
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OTC_MN
#5 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 1:37:31 PM
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Same thing happening to some lakes in northern MN. A very large, very influential corporate farm (RDO) is pumping massive amounts of water to irrigate potato fields. One nearby lake I used to fish is down about 4 feet. When the inspectors come to see how much water they're drawing, they know ahead of time and just shut off half the wells. 'Enforcement' is a farce.
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s.t.fanatic
#6 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 4:00:05 PM
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yup and what is the tax burden of enforcement
William Schlafer
#7 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 5:47:17 PM
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It's the wild west form of water management.

Instead of granting high capacity wells when the science says the environment can support it, the impact is understood and accepted, and proper limits and controls are put in place for it's operation, this legislation basically says let them do whatever they want. If there's harmful impact in the future, then we'll address it at that time.

In other words, once the damage is done, it will be too late for anyone to do anything meaningful about it.


-Bill
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Guillermo
#8 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 11:31:32 PM
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Wonder how long it'll be before Nestle/Perrier come calling and try to steal our spring water again. Or maybe getting their ass kicked by Waushara and Langlade County once was enough to keep them out for good.
West Branch
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:09:59 AM
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Even more distressing is that overproduction of agricultural commodities has become a serious economic problem in the Upper Midwest. Squandering resources to flood the market with cheap ag products ultimately ends up as a lose/lose proposition for farmers and the environment. Our culture has so little regard for food that, according to figures I've heard recently, as much as 40% of it ends up in the trash.

At the risk of starting an unpleasant political discussion, government regulation isn't as bad as its reputation. Iowa courts recently ruled that farmers are free to dump as much nitrate into waterways as they want to. General reaction from many Iowans has been, "There oughta be a law!" Well , yeah--there oughta be. In the interest of vague ideas like "Liberty," citizens continue to vote for politicians who insist that we don't need any experts telling us what to do. When will the supposedly educated populace understand that there are people and corporations that don't care if they hurt us as long as profit is involved?

I could go on and on, but I'll stop before I get banned from this forum.

William Schlafer
#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:03:58 AM
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Guillermo wrote:
Wonder how long it'll be before Nestle/Perrier come calling and try to steal our spring water again. Or maybe getting their ass kicked by Waushara and Langlade County once was enough to keep them out for good.



There's a guy with a well permit in Crawford county near Copper Creek who wants to do just that. Haven't heard anything about it a couple years. Maybe he dropped the idea. There was lots of local resistance from all points on the political compass.


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