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Hoggies  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:12:44 PM(UTC)
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Awesome! I meant specifically for streamers, but I appreciate the guidance for dries and other stuff since I'm new to all this.

I picked up a "tie fast" knot tool and it's actually taken most of the hassle out of nail knots (although my tests were all conducted at the kitchen table and not out in the snow and wind).
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:29:42 PM(UTC)
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Nail knot is definitely the way to go.

Once you go nail
You never go back to loopty loo fail


Except on my sinking lines I usually keep the loopty loo since my leader is only 2-3 feet long and the loopty loo rarely ever hits my guides.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:29:44 PM(UTC)
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Nail knot is definitely the way to go.

Once you go nail
You never go back to loopty loo fail


Except on my sinking lines I usually keep the loopty loo since my leader is only 2-3 feet long and the loopty loo rarely ever hits my guides.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:58:32 PM(UTC)
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Depends on how big the streamer is. For light to medium duty, 5-6’ of butt end, loop knot, 18” of 1x-2x flouro. For heavy stuff I started moving to 10# hard saltwater mono. It’s stiff, and can turn over big flies when they’re waterlogged. I tie 18”-24” directly to my fly line, then loop knot to a foot of 0x flouro. Still experimenting, but that hard mono is awesome.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:41:15 PM(UTC)
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I don't like loop to loop connections, but I like nail knots even less. I think they can catch in guides worse than the loops.

I use a superglue splice to splice a short butt section onto the flyline - usually 20# Maxima on a trout setup like a 4 or 5 W, 25 or 30 on a 6 or 7. Read about it in an article by Dave Whitlock in high school probably, kind of done it ever since. Easy to do - all you need is a couple needles, a pair of hemostats and some superglue. I run a butt section a foot or so long, then blood knot the leader to it. Slides through the guides pretty easily, and you can smooth it out even more with knot sense or aquaseal if you want to, plus there's no hinging.

I do use loop to loop on a couple rods, mainly so I can use a versileader if I want, but even in that case, you can put a perfection loop on the spliced butt section and it'll work as long as the butt is heavy enough.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:25:21 AM(UTC)
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I got out for a couple hours friday morning. I was mostly trying to work out casting, but I did manage to connect with and land an 11 incher (fairly standard size for that stream) on a black zonker. Feels good, man.

I spliced up a couple of my own leaders with 3' of 10lb fireline to 2' of 6lb spiderwire with a snap at the end. They were really limp but seemed more or less serviceable with the zonkers and a big coneheaded thing (muddy buddy). I broke those off (one in a tree, one on a rock under 6' of water), so I switched to a nylon leader (Umpqua 5' 2x with 18" of 3x) and it really wanted to get into vicious curls / wind knots.
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#17 Posted : Friday, February 16, 2018 9:02:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbchilton Go to Quoted Post
Depends on how big the streamer is. For light to medium duty, 5-6’ of butt end, loop knot, 18” of 1x-2x flouro. For heavy stuff I started moving to 10# hard saltwater mono. It’s stiff, and can turn over big flies when they’re waterlogged. I tie 18”-24” directly to my fly line, then loop knot to a foot of 0x flouro. Still experimenting, but that hard mono is awesome.


Any idea if Cabela's salt striker would do the trick? They have a lifetime supply (for that application) for like $4 right now.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:10:08 AM(UTC)
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Got a link? I can’t find it.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 3:21:35 AM(UTC)
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#20 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 3:33:29 AM(UTC)
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I imagine it would you be worth checking out for $4, however the dimensions in the picture don’t match up with the dimensions in the drop down. Rio 12# has a diameter of .015”.
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